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Anesthesiologist starting to get worried.. New study shows that nurse anesthetists don't need to be supervision by physicians.

Posted by James Bond (aka Igor) (aka Igor) Aug 3 '10, 15:56

"No Harm Found When Nurse Anesthetists Work Without Supervision By Physicians"

Granted, the study was funded by a American Association of Nurse Anesthetists (AANA). So I won't be surprised if there is bias in the study.

Nurse Anesthetists = Commonly they are called Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist (CRNA)

Sorry.. don't have an actual link to the study.

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I thought annesthesia was the main reason patients died on the table, each person is more complicated than mere sex and #lbs of meat -- nm - zeitgeist Aug 3, 16:04 18
- Indeed. But silly to assume that safety is more important than money to the hospital. -- nm - James Bond (aka Igor) Aug 3, 16:08 17
  - clearly, both safety and money are very important. if everyone always wanted the safest option in all instances, no one would ever complain about cost - TFox Aug 3, 16:26 13
    - Yeah, but like loosilu said, there are some places you don't want to go cheap. -- nm - James Bond (aka Igor) Aug 3, 16:28 12
      - how many people have been killed by nurse anesthesiologists compared to doctors? - TFox Aug 3, 16:33 1
        
        I haven't seen a study that shows that. I think there is limited data since not that many states have CRNA working without supervision. - James Bond (aka Igor) Aug 3, 16:37
      - I think anyone who's worked any job ever can attest that having someone stand over your shoulder is not always productive. - Dr.Vermin Aug 3, 16:32 9
        
        that's not the point, IMO. The anesthesiologist literally holds the patient's life in their hands. I want that person to be a doc. -- nm - loosilu Aug 3, 16:41 8
        
        Utterly meaningless if the results are the same. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Aug 3, 16:52 7
        
        Past performance does not guarantee future results. When talking about human life, people like their chances to be as good as possible. -- nm - mara Aug 3, 16:54 6
        
        as long as its free. -- nm - TFox Aug 3, 16:57 2
        
        I don't want my brain surgeon, my heart surgeon, or my anesthesiologist to be free. -- nm - loosilu Aug 3, 17:03 1
        
        hehe, word. -- nm - James Bond (aka Igor) Aug 3, 17:14
        
        Yeah, when you start catering to feelings over facts, that's when the unnecessary costs go up. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Aug 3, 16:56 2
        
        The study is not very convincing, factually. -- nm - loosilu Aug 3, 17:02 1
        
        Not when you're stubbornly & superficially stuck on "doctors trump nurses, period." -- nm - Dr.Vermin Aug 3, 17:47
  - (Well, the insurance companies and gov't are more to blame. The less they reimburse for services, the more the hospital will try to cut corners) -- nm - James Bond (aka Igor) Aug 3, 16:10 2
    - how is it possible that providers and hospitals have no fault in driving up the cost of healthcare? -- nm - TFox Aug 3, 16:16 1
      - I think a big increase is because of the technology available. -- nm - James Bond (aka Igor) Aug 3, 16:23
If I'm going to held in a near death state for a few hours, I want a doc to watch me. -- nm - loosilu Aug 3, 15:57 5
- Exactly, but places are going towards the CRNA model because it is obviously much cheaper. :( -- nm - James Bond (aka Igor) Aug 3, 16:00 4
  - that's literally the last place I want to economize. -- nm - loosilu Aug 3, 16:00 3
    - We've replaced loosi's scalpels with butter knives. Let's see if she notices. -- nm - Mop Aug 3, 16:08 1
      - not if the anny has done their job -- nm - zeitgeist Aug 3, 16:13
    - Uh-huh, there are good reasons Aneasthologists are doctors. -- nm - the liioulu with paperback Aug 3, 16:02

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