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the part of the roid debate that always amuses me....

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Aug 4 '10, 09:34

look at some of the names of those who have been busted. There are plenty of no name clowns on that list. Just bacause a player roided up, does not make them an all-star. There are probably as many cases of the roids hurting guys (looks at you, Nomar) as helping them.

Would Bonds have hit 600 homers clean? Probably. Still a HOF caliber player without. Same thing with McGwire.

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The funniest part to me is the outrage when MLB players are busted, while NFL players continue getting suspensions and most people don't care -- nm - Strongbad Aug 4, 09:40 5
- But, baseball is Amurrica's game! -- nm - con_carne Aug 4, 10:09
- No doubt. NFL players seem to get overlooked in this area. Not sure why. -- nm - Inigo Aug 4, 09:50 1
  - because of the stats. - groiny Aug 4, 09:53
- agreed....nm - xi Aug 4, 09:46
- well, yeah, the double standard is staggering. Merriman misses 25% of his teams season - groiny Aug 4, 09:41
If you add in all illegal substances, I totally disagree on McGwire being a HOFer. - Inigo Aug 4, 09:39 7
- maybe he would've, maybe he would have stayed more limber and not had the back issues. It's still supposition. - zombie musubi Aug 4, 09:41 6
  - He was pretty open, at the time, that Andro was a big reason why he could continue playing through his back issues. -- nm - Inigo Aug 4, 09:44 4
    - right, the Andro that was not a banned substance at the time? - groiny Aug 4, 09:45 3
      - That's the one he could admit to. As we know now, he was talking a multitude of illegal drugs. -- nm - Inigo Aug 4, 09:48 2
        
        certainly, that is not debateable. - groiny Aug 4, 09:50 1
        
        I'm not trying to harsh on McGwire. - Inigo Aug 4, 09:58
  - roids sure can contribute to longevity going in both directions. - groiny Aug 4, 09:44
Those no-name clowns woulda been very poor no-name clowns without it - Will Hunting Aug 4, 09:38 13
- The whole sport is to blame. The owners took the gate reciepts the attention drew. - zombie musubi Aug 4, 09:40
- nobody is pissed off about the utility infielder. nm -- nm - groiny Aug 4, 09:38 11
  - People are pissed off at it in general, they point ot the highest profile person, but let's be honest, they helped who took. - Will Hunting Aug 4, 09:42 8
    - They probably benefitted, but the point is: So? - zombie musubi Aug 4, 09:46 4
      - the ends justify the means?....nm - xi Aug 4, 09:51 3
        
        Not really. But so long as it wasn't against the rules.... - zombie musubi Aug 4, 09:57
        
        happens in every sport. - groiny Aug 4, 09:53 1
        
        sure. but baseball got what it wanted out of having no testing, so their ends mostly justify their means as well... - xi Aug 4, 09:59
    - Yeah! -- nm - Brady Anderson Aug 4, 09:43 2
      - Not much for reading my posts, are we? - Will Hunting Aug 4, 09:43 1
        
        Heh, I read the reply before that. -- nm - Strongbad Aug 4, 09:45
  - Because noone cares about the utility infielder in general. -- nm - TWuG Aug 4, 09:41 1
    - right. The guys who sell the jerseys are the ones who get pinched - groiny Aug 4, 09:42

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