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24th best WHIP amoung SP this season. Stellar!
Posted by
groiny (aka groiny)
Aug 13 '10, 12:02
ML, you are crossing into Will Hunting homerism territory.
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Liriano has been stellar, but that BABIP is in line with his batted ball profile. (nm)
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musubi
Aug 13, 12:12
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If you gave me one stat to analyze pitchers, it would be WHIP.
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groiny
Aug 13, 12:16
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oh, and for you from BB, the reason the AL Central is always tightly contested....
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groiny
Aug 13, 12:21
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Whoops. Looked at the wrong number. It is a little inflated. Still, it's in line. That HR number isn't.
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musubi
Aug 13, 12:15
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so you ignore the runners allowed per 9 innings?
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groiny
Aug 13, 12:20
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You don't ignore it, but it's not the end all be all. Single point analysis rarely works in baseball. Liriano has been fabulous at many things.
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musubi
Aug 13, 12:23
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which I gave him credit for. 2 HR in 140 innings is insane.
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groiny
Aug 13, 12:27
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And his LD% is something like ~20+, which typically correlates to a .320 BABIP +/- .010.
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musubi
Aug 13, 12:18
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Look at Price, Weaver, Pavano, Lee, Cahill, Danks, CC......
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groiny
Aug 13, 12:17
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Pavano? Cahill? CC? Really? You're gonna hang your hat on those? Liriano's easily been better than all three. Easily. (nm)
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musubi
Aug 13, 12:21
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It is like you guys are looking at XBox stats or something......
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groiny
Aug 13, 12:26
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Weaver and Danks (maaaaaybe CC) at least have an arguement. Cahill and Pavano? Nuh-uh. (nm)
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musubi
Aug 13, 12:32
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You might want to look at Cahill's numbers again, and Pavano too while you ar at it.
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groiny
Aug 13, 12:35
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Cahill allows a .192 batting average against, 11 homers in 133 innings
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groiny
Aug 13, 12:43
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Cahill is very good. Liriano has been better. (nm)
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musubi
Aug 13, 12:48
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oh sweet jesus. nm -- nm
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groiny
Aug 13, 12:50
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lmao
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groiny
Aug 13, 12:46
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your ability to circumvent a tried and true stat is amazing.
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groiny
Aug 13, 12:49
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I just looked at Price's numbers. He's Liriano-lite. not sure why you think he's better than Liriano.
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musubi
Aug 13, 12:26
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Because he's a Commodore.
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TFox
Aug 13, 12:27
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a brick .... house? -- nm
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Reagen
Aug 13, 12:32
70's R&B groups just don't do it for me. (nm)
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musubi
Aug 13, 12:29
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You can site anything you want, but there are 2 AL SP who have a WHIP under 1.00
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groiny
Aug 13, 12:10
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nothing hard to comprehend at all.
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groiny
Aug 13, 12:14
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Think of it this way: you know how on offense there are two primary components: getting on base and hitting for power?
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musubi
Aug 13, 12:28
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Yes, I know. His slugging against is solid.
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groiny
Aug 13, 12:37
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If he had a 1.5 WHIP. Maybe. The difference between 1.26, 1.24 and 1.25 is trivial. (Liriano vs Pavano vs Sabathia)
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musubi
Aug 13, 12:46
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right, but the difference between 1.26 and .98 or 1.07 is huge.
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groiny
Aug 13, 12:47
you could have said Pavano, and I might have believed you. nm -- nm
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groiny
Aug 13, 12:05
But he is right. -- nm
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Spawn
Aug 13, 12:03
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age = 40. IQ = 46.
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TFox
Aug 13, 12:09
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You are low.
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Spawn
Aug 13, 12:09
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