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In response to "groiny: Wins are a crap stat, and you know that. (nm)" by musubi

yes, I do, but when discussing "best pitcher" they have to factor in somewhere. nm -- nm

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Aug 13 '10, 12:52

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- although, i'll through this out there: if you're talking "best pitcher", then that has to account for results, not expected future performance. - TFox Aug 13, 12:59 4
  - That's a fair point. Forward vs backward looking makes a difference. (nm) - musubi Aug 13, 13:05
  - this is pretty much my point, spoken a bit better. nm -- nm - groiny Aug 13, 13:00 2
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      - Sure, I love to debate baseball shit, regardless. nm -- nm - groiny Aug 13, 13:02
- point taken, but other than whiffs, where is Liriano better than Cahill? - groiny Aug 13, 12:55 2
  - Preventing HRs. Cahills been good at it, Liriano's been *great* at it. (nm) - musubi Aug 13, 13:01 1
    - I have never heard this used for a pitchers effectiveness. - groiny Aug 13, 13:07

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