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In response to "define "lots". i think if a coke addict stops doing coke, but drinks and smokes some, then sure, they can be "clean"." by TFox

if they are addicts, they are not clean. they are using -- nm

Posted by milky (aka chris) Aug 30 '10, 12:27

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sure, but they aren't pot addicts. they're coke addicts. and lots of people can drink or smoke without being addicted to either. -- nm - TFox Aug 30, 12:28 16
- addicts find their drug, be it coke, pot, alcohol. it's a pattern of behavior used as a defense mechanism to their psychological problems - milky Aug 30, 12:30 10
  - I've noticed on shows like Intervention that a lot of recovering addicts still smoke tobacco. I guess that doesn't count? -- nm - loosilu Aug 30, 12:32 5
    - they're pretty much giving up enough already... - znufrii Aug 30, 12:34
    - in my mind it probably still counts to some degree but if that's the worst you can get them down to, you probably take it - milky Aug 30, 12:34 1
      - my only point is, the draw of coke is closer to the draw of nicotine than the escapism of alcoholism and marijuana. - TFox Aug 30, 12:37
    - As I said on B2, legal vs illegal. -- nm - Spawn Aug 30, 12:34 1
      - but they aren't considered "clean" if they still drink. -- nm - loosilu Aug 30, 12:34
  - i think that overgeneralizes the addict. that's not everyone. -- nm - TFox Aug 30, 12:31 3
    - someone with that behavior pattern usually can't use anything recreationally. -- nm - loosilu Aug 30, 12:33
    - everyone else is not an "addict" if they can (and i do believe many can) use recreationally -- nm - milky Aug 30, 12:32
    - I think it is more that you are undergeneralizing. It *is* most. -- nm - Spawn Aug 30, 12:32
- They are still using it as a crutch to take the place of the other. -- nm - Spawn Aug 30, 12:29 4
  - Maybe. Maybe not. Like I said, it depends on the volume of the usage (to me). -- nm - TFox Aug 30, 12:30 3
    - Let's say, every day, afterwork/5 days a week -- nm - flavorize Aug 30, 12:33 2
      - with addicts, it's as much about the "why" of the usage as it is about the "how much" - milky Aug 30, 12:36
      - What about weekends? If theya re not doing it on weekends, then they may be clean. -- nm - Spawn Aug 30, 12:34

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