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sceire, yes. My baseball bat post was obviously meant as a joke, whereas

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Sep 15 '10, 12:45

this was a question.

I am sure that things I say are quite often taken the wrong way, and I completely understand that.

I think that referring to someone as "that black dude" is every bit as offending as "that chinaman" or "that jap".

Call it what you want, but it could have come out better.

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It could have come out better and Loyola has form, but it was benign. -- nm - Roger More Sep 15, 12:50
and, Dude, 'Chinaman' is not the preferred nomenclature. 'Asian-American', please. -- nm - znufrii Sep 15, 12:49
Well...if he had the question and didn't know either name of the people involved, how should he ask the question? - Jim Sep 15, 12:49 22
- really? this isn't difficult. "Whats the name of the rapper who interrupted the country musician?" - Guy Sep 15, 13:07 6
  - This is nowhere near as sensitive an issue in Ireland as it is in the States. -- nm - Roger More Sep 15, 13:14
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    - i would refer to you as my "drunk friend" :) -- nm - Guy Sep 15, 13:12
  - That there could have been better ways to describe it does not mean that the way he did describe it was racist in tone -- nm - Stephen Sep 15, 13:09 2
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      - Right, because people are objecting to the musical descriptors used... - Stephen Sep 15, 13:28
- there are a ton of better ways to describe it. - groiny Sep 15, 12:58
- You didn't capitalize Caucasian, but capitalized African-American? How dare you. - Dr.Vermin Sep 15, 12:50 13
  - black isn't an offensive descriptor. no one here insists on being called Caucasian. Caucasian is barely even a useful word. - TFox Sep 15, 12:54 10
    - your IM says it best. no one's bringing out the pitchforks, it was just a noticeable inconsistency -- nm - Guy Sep 15, 13:09
    - Maybe what Loyola was trying to say is that Taylor Swift is a country music singer while Kanye West isn't good enough to be considered a singer or - Jim Sep 15, 12:57 4
      - i'm not a huge fan either, but it's not because he isn't good enough. he's plenty good enough. - TFox Sep 15, 12:59 3
        
        agreed, he is impossible to like, regardless of his talent. - groiny Sep 15, 13:00 2
        
        does ST know he recently released a remix of a Justin Bieber song with Raekwon from Wu Tang as a guest. - Guy Sep 15, 13:10
        
        that's a great analogy. -- nm - TFox Sep 15, 13:01
    - Well, the fact that Taylor Swift is bland as fuck, with little to distinguish herself doesn't help who is describing her, either -- nm - con_carne Sep 15, 12:56 1
      - that would lend even more to the argument that she could have been "the tiny white chick". - TFox Sep 15, 12:58
    - Right, I am not all worked up about it, just kinda read a but ugly to me. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 15, 12:55 1
      - a "bit" ugly. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 15, 12:56
  - White guilt comes out in all kinds of ways -- nm - con_carne Sep 15, 12:53
  - Dammit...I knew I messed that up. ;) -- nm - Jim Sep 15, 12:51
that black guy /= that chinaman. the "n" word would = that chinaman - Stephen Sep 15, 12:48 2
- word -- nm - Beaker Sep 15, 13:12
- I disagree. nm -- nm - groiny Sep 15, 12:54

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