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JackDawson: Two other things you might dislike about canadian politics - no fixed term limits, and ... you literally CAN buy senate seats here. -- nm

Posted by Beryllium (aka grayman) Dec 11 '08, 15:29

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- it's easier to vote out elected MPs in Canada, so there's less need for term limits -- nm - Roger More Dec 11, 15:43
- they're more a part of the bureaucracy than a part of elected government. - mafic Dec 11, 15:41 2
  - cuz THAT wasn't controversial. hah :) -- nm - Beryllium Dec 11, 15:43
  - They have a big role within caucuses though. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Dec 11, 15:41
- the senate does propose legislation from time to time, but they can't involve any spending. - Reagen Dec 11, 15:36
- I'm not aware of any. Senate appointments here are a reward for good service, it seems. -- nm - Beryllium Dec 11, 15:33 1
  - Better reason for appointment than some others. - the liioulu with icy sidewalks Dec 11, 15:37
I just don't see how a man from a country with an electoral college and 18 month campaigns can criticize Canada for having a Governor General. -- nm - Mop Dec 11, 15:30 15
- no political system is perfect - they all have their positives and negatives -- nm - Roger More Dec 11, 15:35
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  - Have you really looked at the Canadian system though or are you going from cliff's notes? - Name Withheld By Request Dec 11, 15:36 9
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      - As I wrote below, I think you're confusing the GG's power with the PM's. Constitutional practice is that... - Name Withheld By Request Dec 11, 15:44 3
        
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        it wasn't realistic that the GG would deny Harper's request to prorogue - Reagen Dec 11, 15:49
        
        The more I read, the more that appeared to be a media-hype question. - Name Withheld By Request Dec 11, 15:48
      - Damn. No joke, you probably know it better than I do. -- nm - Mop Dec 11, 15:43 1
        
        Certainly more than me, I'll freely admit. I just know what I like, and I know when it's fun to make a slippery-slope argument :) -- nm - Beryllium Dec 11, 15:43
    - a lot of people, myself included, agree with your last line. -- nm - Reagen Dec 11, 15:40
    - I suspect he's mostly going from cliff's notes, or an abridged form thereof, as I do with US politics -- nm - Beryllium Dec 11, 15:37
- Yeah ... I really dislike the American system, but this spat is exposing a lot of flaws in the Canadian system, as well. - Beryllium Dec 11, 15:32 2
  - I don't see a flaw in the Canadian system. The GG, I suppose, can abuse her power. But so far, she's only done what the PM has asked her to do. -- nm - Mop Dec 11, 15:33 1
    - In Australia, about 30 years ago, the GG dismissed the Prime Minister and asked the leader of the Opposition to form a government - Roger More Dec 11, 15:36
(Harper and the Conservatives are pushing to put fixed term limits in place, but I think it's a poor idea for assorted silly reasons) -- nm - Beryllium Dec 11, 15:30 3
- Works well in BC and Ontario and is coming in Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Nove Scotia. - Name Withheld By Request Dec 11, 15:33 2
  - I don't personally understand the need. If voters like someone, why keep them from voting for them? -- nm - Reagen Dec 11, 15:42
  - I'm not a fan of Gordon Campbell and the BC Liberals, but I will admit that they haven't screwed us up as bad as I expected them to :) -- nm - Beryllium Dec 11, 15:34
Ah....On that second one? -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Dec 11, 15:29 2
- senate's pretty much a patronage thing. more than a few have been appointed for being good donors/fundraisers. -- nm - mafic Dec 11, 15:34
- well, heh, it was a bit of hyperbole. Let's say ... you can earn senate seats, but it's not an elected office. -- nm - Beryllium Dec 11, 15:31

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