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In response to "canadian ice wine is better, scoffy. most california ice wines are freezer wine." by mafic

Well Scoffy McScoffy pants, I will disclude Northern Cali, but I stand by Idaho, Washington and Oregon. They only use grapes frozen on the vine and

compete in international competitions. My favorite, Ste. Michel's has several gold medals. There's also a fairly new vinyard, Carmela's, about 15 miles away, that is becoming known for their Rieslings and Ice wine. I bought a bottle of the special reserve last year at the winery and it was like velvet. I think we made that bottle last a week, just having tiny glasses after dinner.

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