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so we have a policy from HO that when an employee has a life event, HO or the school cannot pay for a gift or flowers. have a kid? your dept takes up

Posted by chromanda (aka amanda) Oct 18 '10, 16:31

a collection. getting married? your dept takes up a collection. your grandmother dies? your dept takes up a collection.

we have an employee whose very elderly mother passed away recently. her immediate supervisor is insisting that we pay for flowers. I remind her that it's not in policy. she says, " but kim has been here for 15 freaking years."

so here's my question: does that matter? I think no. policy is policy.

Responses:

i don't know what HO means, but to me the policy would mean the company doesn't pay. what individuals deem appropriate to contribute is completely - kare Oct 18, 16:58 12
- usually means head office -- nm - Beryllium Oct 18, 16:59 11
  - home office -- nm - loosilu Oct 18, 16:59 10
    - oh, weird, I usually abbreviate that as HQ. - Beryllium Oct 18, 17:00 9
      - there is no Q in office. - loosilu Oct 18, 17:00 8
        
        just in ST:TNG? -- nm - peglegpete Oct 18, 17:21
        
        your T is showing. :) -- nm - Beryllium Oct 18, 17:01 6
        
        she's not a detail person. -- nm - TFox Oct 18, 17:03 4
        
        psssst. Strong N means not a detail person. - loosilu Oct 18, 17:09 3
        
        But at what point to real-world results override hypothetical predictions? -- nm - Beryllium (iPhone) Oct 18, 17:28 2
        
        ask the Myers Briggsologists. -- nm - loosilu Oct 18, 17:32 1
        
        I wish *I* had a degree in Myers-Briggsology :( -- nm - Beryllium (iPhone) Oct 18, 17:36
        
        wanna see my F? -- (link) - loosilu Oct 18, 17:02 [Backboard]
Policy is Policy -- nm - amoxy Oct 18, 16:57
but, won't every one chip in for flowers anyway? stick with the policy, to the norm. -- nm - Andie Oct 18, 16:47 2
- tana's points are that 1) we shouldn't have to because kim has been here so long, the school owes her this and 2) there have been too many events - chromanda Oct 18, 16:51 1
  - reading and comprehension is not a prerequisite for employment? :) -- nm - peglegpete Oct 18, 16:56
Tell her that if the mother wasn't very elderly, or if the death had been more sudden, then maybe. -- nm - TFox Oct 18, 16:45 5
- you know, I put "very elderly" in my message because I felt like it would make me seem like less of a bad guy. but it doesn't matter. no matter how - chromanda Oct 18, 16:47 4
  - I have a policy that you can't reply under an obvious joke as though I made a salient point. - TFox Oct 18, 16:48 3
    - spoiler. - loosilu Oct 18, 17:14 1
      - not one you can follow, anyway. -- nm - TFox Oct 18, 17:29
    - ALL GLORY TO THE POLICY -- nm - Beryllium Oct 18, 16:53
hold the line....nm - x Oct 18, 16:41
tell the supervisor's boss she is messing with company policy, and the pressure is not pleasant -- nm - peglegpete Oct 18, 16:35 2
- how about this: I *am* the supervisor's boss. I am saying no, I will not escalate to the pres or HO. I feel like crap about it, the policy sucks, but - chromanda Oct 18, 16:43 1
  - great. -- nm - peglegpete Oct 18, 16:46
I say chip in. -- nm - loosilu Oct 18, 16:33
and being human is not in the policy? -- nm - Danedukenuuk Oct 18, 16:32 19
- the policy is "we don't pay." I don't think that's human, but it's the policy. how long kim has worked here doesn't change the policy - chromanda Oct 18, 16:33 18
  - Hee, hee. Mandy is a "T". (I'm guessing ENTP?) nm - ralph wiggum Oct 18, 16:44 14
    - I used to test ENTJ. now I test INTP. so, yes, NT. I am so totally an introvert, though. -- nm - chromanda Oct 18, 16:46 13
      - I think i was INTJ, but I totally forget. It's been so long. -- nm - Beryllium Oct 18, 16:50
      - My INTP sister! nm - ralph wiggum Oct 18, 16:48 11
        
        steve our friend who is all about myers-briggs called BS when I switched. "you can't change first and last. only inner!" - chromanda Oct 18, 16:53 6
        
        I just took a course on presentation skills that was really into the Myers Briggs model. The facilitator said she can pick a person's type by - ralph wiggum Oct 18, 17:02 3
        
        I do that too but I'm thinking of dreamy vacation spots. -- nm - Max Oct 18, 19:10
        
        yeah me too. as a strong N I am all over the place. -- nm - loosilu Oct 18, 17:03
        
        last sentence of your IM = me -- nm - Beryllium Oct 18, 17:03
        
        IIRC, I/E switch easily, and the hardest to switch is N/S. -- nm - loosilu Oct 18, 16:56
        
        I think there's a class of "I" that has traits which emulate the "E", but that it might fade over time. - Beryllium Oct 18, 16:54
        
        *raises hand* - loosilu Oct 18, 16:52 3
        
        Yeah, you are so T, it's scary. nm - ralph wiggum Oct 18, 16:55 1
        
        I'm actually on the line with T. Off the charts with N and P. -- nm - loosilu Oct 18, 16:55
        
        *retakes test.* -- nm - chromanda Oct 18, 16:54
  - if everything just was that easy then you actually did'nt need any supervisors at all - Danedukenuuk Oct 18, 16:36 2
    - clarifying: this is a *terrible* workplace. does that change your answer? -- nm - chromanda Oct 18, 16:41 1
      - nahh but i understand why it is terrible -- nm - Danedukenuuk Oct 18, 17:43

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