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Juan Williams hired by Fox News -- (link)

Posted by Reagen (aka Reagen) Oct 21 '10, 13:46

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this is my shocked face. (www.latimes.com)

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Is it a surprise? He's a regular panelist on Fox News Sunday. -- nm - Dano Oct 21, 14:12 1
- "Are you being sarcastic?" "I don't even know anymore." -- nm - Reagen Oct 21, 14:14
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- I'm not sure I follow the parallel there. - znufrii Oct 21, 14:02 11
  - The parallel is that their comments, when taken in full, aren't nearly as controversial or inflammatory as those pushing the stories against them - Stephen Oct 21, 14:11 10
    - I know you want to believe he was saying something like "It's understandable that people, me included, have an instinctual fear of Muslims in airports - bloody mara Oct 21, 14:16 6
      - He actually started to when he was cut off by O'Reilly -- nm - Stephen Oct 21, 14:37
      - "I made it clear that all Americans have to be careful not to let fears lead to violation of anyone�s constitutional rights..." -- nm - Dr.Vermin Oct 21, 14:24 4
        
        He apparently feels his fears are rational and well-grounded. That's bigotry. -- nm - mara Oct 21, 14:30 2
        
        Oh, I think you misread. -- (link) - Dr.Vermin Oct 21, 14:32 1
        
        he's basically just reiterating the same things. - mafic Oct 21, 14:38
        
        is not exactly the same as repudiating the validity of those fears. -- nm - znufrii Oct 21, 14:27
    - Williams' statement is the classical definition of bigotry. -- nm - Reagen Oct 21, 14:13 2
      - But Sherrod's initial "I didn't want to help them cause they were white" wasn't? -- nm - Stephen Oct 21, 14:35 1
        
        which she then directly repudiated, saying she was wrong, in the portion of speech that was left out, iirc. -- nm - znufrii Oct 21, 14:38
- From what I'm reading, this is a last straw type situation - Reagen Oct 21, 14:01 13
  - HAHA! -- nm - Nina Totenberg Oct 21, 14:05 9
    - I'm not here to defend or condemn every single hiring and firing situation. But every person works under different circumstances in these orgs - Reagen Oct 21, 14:18
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      - I can see how political bias (unless there's another incident with Totenburg I'm not finding) might be seen differently than racial bigotry... - znufrii Oct 21, 14:25 6
        
        So we're boiling wishing someone (and their grandkids by the way) gets AIDS is boiled down to political bias now? - Stephen Oct 21, 14:33 5
        
        a dispicable sentiment to be sure, but still categorically different than racially motivated comments. - znufrii Oct 21, 14:36 4
        
        Does it matter? - Stephen Oct 21, 14:38 3
        
        well, yeah, that's kind of the whole crux of my argument. - znufrii Oct 21, 14:44 2
        
        Wow -- nm - Stephen Oct 21, 14:49 1
        
        Also, I guess the grandkids of this person is fair game too? - Stephen Oct 21, 14:50
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    - And really, within their rights. Every journalist knows they moonlight at their own risk. -- nm - Reagen Oct 21, 14:04 1
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Good for him. I may not always agree with him, but from what i've heard from him he seems like a fairly reasonable person. -- nm - Stephen Oct 21, 13:52
didn't see that coming at all... -- nm - znufrii Oct 21, 13:47 1
- especially with all the other black journalists who must be beating down the door to get on their network -- nm - hachiko Oct 21, 13:55

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