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ahh, I just knew there would be complaining about Walmart giving away toys. -- nm

Posted by Beaker (aka Anniebecca) Dec 22 '08, 14:19

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i think the complaint was about using the donations as free positive PR for the corporation - pigby Dec 22, 14:22 19
- Actually, it is SOP for corporate giving. THe value of the media and recognition plays into the choice of what to give to. - The Christmas Carol Coalition Dec 22, 14:25 13
  - yup. big crunch in arts philanthropy right now as corporations want to get the most exposure for their dollar. -- nm - znufrii Dec 22, 14:26 12
    - well, arts philanthropy is completely different. there is no shame in an arts grant. -- nm - loosilu Dec 22, 14:28 11
      - And being needy is shameful? -- nm - The Christmas Carol Coalition Dec 22, 14:29 9
        
        for a lot of people, yes, unfortunately. - znufrii Dec 22, 14:31 8
        
        yes, that's one reason why food stamps look like credit cards now. -- nm - loosilu Dec 22, 14:31 7
        
        And while I think it's a valid critique, I don't think it's wholly sufficient as grounds to malign Walmart for their gift. - znufrii Dec 22, 14:36 2
        
        all I'm saying is I hope that when they get their PR, they treat people with dignity. -- nm - loosilu Dec 22, 14:37 1
        
        I can agree with that wholeheartedly. Giving should never be used to diminish the recipient. -- nm - znufrii Dec 22, 14:37
        
        Actually, the switch here in Texas was to prevent fraud and abuse - The Christmas Carol Coalition Dec 22, 14:34 3
        
        was it not a combination? -- nm - loosilu Dec 22, 14:35 2
        
        No...THe Texas Comptroller at the time created the new system to save the state money and prevent fraud -- nm - The Christmas Carol Coalition Dec 22, 14:41
        
        ...what am I saying. it's about the money. -- nm - loosilu Dec 22, 14:36
      - Well, imho there shouldn't be any shame in accepting charity to help one's own family, either. -- nm - znufrii Dec 22, 14:29
- why? I like to get noticed most of the times I do nice things...and I', not a multi-billion dollar corporation -- nm - Beaker - Caveman Finalist Dec 22, 14:23 4
  - because the act of charity is about the act itself, not you -- nm - pigby Dec 22, 14:24 3
    - sure, that's nice in Utopia; but real world is kinda different. -- nm - Beaker Dec 22, 14:26 2
      - there are plenty of other ways to get yourself noticed if you need that much attention -- nm - pigby Dec 22, 14:26 1
        
        I'm arguing Walmart's position not my own thanks. -- nm - Beaker Dec 22, 14:27
Frankily, I expected there to be much more "media whore" complaining than there was. -- nm - Beryllium Dec 22, 14:21 3
- Working in the charity arena, I fully understand how they feel that the media coverage was important - The Christmas Carol Coalition Dec 22, 14:24 1
  - I understand that. just trying to resolve it for myself, if that makes sense. I cannot STAND some of the shit - loosilu Dec 22, 14:26
- I was actually impressed with the Walmart defenders. kudos! -- nm - Beaker Dec 22, 14:22
I just wondered if they included helmets...not really complaining -- nm - The Christmas Carol Coalition Dec 22, 14:20 12
- wasn't really looking in your direction ;) -- nm - Beaker Dec 22, 14:21 11
  - I think there is plenty of media exploitation of the needy, and it's a legitimate issue. -- nm - loosilu Dec 22, 14:23 10
    - tell that to the needy when people stop giving stuff away -- nm - Beaker - Caveman Finalist Dec 22, 14:23 9
      - You can give stuff away without parading Lil Susie on TV so the whole town knows Daddy can't buy her toys. -- nm - loosilu Dec 22, 14:24 8
        
        But Lil Susie can't be shown on TV without mommy or daddy signing agreement -- nm - The Christmas Carol Coalition Dec 22, 14:29 2
        
        for real? good to know. -- nm - loosilu Dec 22, 14:32 1
        
        In Texas at least...which is where this happened. -- nm - The Christmas Carol Coalition Dec 22, 14:42
        
        sure I can. but Walmart (or any huge company) is a different kettle of fish. -- nm - Beaker Dec 22, 14:26 4
        
        I hope that when they get their publicity, they are sensitive to the pride of recipients. -- nm - loosilu Dec 22, 14:27 3
        
        I would put my kids getting toys for Christmas over my pride. -- nm - Beaker Dec 22, 14:28 2
        
        not everyone may feel exactly the same. -- nm - loosilu Dec 22, 14:31 1
        
        They should. Pride's a sin. -- nm - God Dec 22, 14:40

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