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Loosi: Palin is "establishment" because she was a running mate to a serious contender to the presidency and was a state governor for half a term.
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by
TWuG
but she has no actual power to do anything, correct?
Posted by
loosilu (aka loosilu2)
Feb 9 '11, 12:07
I'm a little confused because we started out talking about the Bush Administration.
Responses:
She has a lot of influence, not power -- nm
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ceregon
Feb 9, 12:26
She has power. It isn't through the GOP, but through the people she brings to the GOP's table. -- nm
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TWuG
Feb 9, 12:08
(she doesn't even hold a position in the party as far as I know) -- nm
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loosilu
Feb 9, 12:08
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Al Gore holds no official party position as far as I know, and yet, he's part of the party establishment, wouldn't you say? (nm)
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musubi
Feb 9, 12:15
And the Dem's problem is one of organization. They have a harder job of it because they are less homogeneous than the GOP.
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TWuG
Feb 9, 12:11
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that's a good point. However, with some smarts they could certainly overcome that. They managed to elect Obama. -- nm
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loosilu
Feb 9, 12:14
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What kills them is that the portion of the party that's best set up to get a Democratic majority (the conserva-centrists) were the ones who got destro
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Will Hunting
Feb 9, 12:17
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DLC, also going broke and closing shop this week. so long fuckheads! -- nm
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MaxLies PAC
Feb 9, 12:19
4
Yep, you'd definetly wanna get rid of the winners on the battlefield.
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Will Hunting
Feb 9, 12:21
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bwah. it was all that liberal media that got him elected -- nm
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MaxLies PAC
Feb 9, 12:25
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They got him in the game; they wanted the horse race that Hillary was cruising away with.
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Will Hunting
Feb 9, 12:30
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don't worry, he's already begun sucking the centrist cock in preparation for 2012
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MaxLies PAC
Feb 9, 12:33
and he's fucked his coalition on all their proposed legislation from day one -- nm
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MaxLies PAC
Feb 9, 12:16
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I'd put more blame on a Congress that wouldn't or couldn't follow his lead. But, no, he certainly isn't without disappointments.
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TWuG
Feb 9, 12:19
and you wonder why the left isn't as effective. -- nm
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loosilu
Feb 9, 12:17
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"because they're not as homogenous." (nm)
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musubi
Feb 9, 12:18
no i don't. you were the one who implied they were just as effective as the right wing, for. fucks. sake. -- nm
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MaxLies PAC
Feb 9, 12:18
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I'm out. -- nm
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loosilu
Feb 9, 12:19
Some would say because he ran left, but has governed center-right. -- nm
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TWuG
Feb 9, 12:15
and the further left you go, the wider the road becomes.
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znufrii
Feb 9, 12:13
MILF :) -- nm
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peglegpete
Feb 9, 12:09
other than raise a shitload of money and bestow it on her chosen candiates through her PAC -- nm
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MaxLies PAC
Feb 9, 12:08
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Her real power is the power to rally. There isn't anyone on the left who can do it as effectively right now.
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loosilu
Feb 9, 12:08
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This is also why I think candidates are going to be random for the GOP in the election. They don't have anyonr as big of name as Palin to compete
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MDH
Feb 9, 12:15
Sure there is. She's got 25% support rating; Hillary / Obama all trump that significantly.
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Will Hunting
Feb 9, 12:11
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all I know is, everything she says shows up in headline news. Not even Hillary has that clout. -- nm
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loosilu
Feb 9, 12:13
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Media is about whoring attention and she's the best.
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Will Hunting
Feb 9, 12:15
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