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In response to "that's conscience-shocking for COBRA for a family of three" by moles, ex-federal agent

not conscience shocking -- nm

Posted by moles, ex-federal agent (aka chris) Feb 17 '11, 12:02

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This comes up every time, but the fact that this cost is taken for granted just for insurance that might pay for health care is an incredible sign - Reagen Feb 17, 12:06 46 1
- Yes, but how many Americans would be shocked at a 12% or 13% combined sales tax rate? - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 12:14 44
  - That's $18,000 a year....I'd have to pay about 70% sales tax on applicable items to reach that point a year. - Will Hunting Feb 17, 12:38
  - I pay 14% sales tax any time I'm in Pigeon Forge. -- nm - David Feb 17, 12:35 1
    - aka "The Devil's Anvil" -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:37
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  - there's no way I pay $1500 a *year* in sales tax. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:22 28
    - No, but you live in Alberta, which doesn't have a provincial portion. Betcha many Canadians households in the 12% or more provinces get there. - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 12:38 2
      - then times it by 12. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:39 1
        
        "times it"? How very fifth grade of you. - David Feb 17, 12:41
    - Aren't you in Alberta? -- nm - Guigue Feb 17, 12:35 22
      - i'm in ontario (land of 13% tax) and there is no way in hell i come close either. -- nm - Andie Feb 17, 12:36 18
        
        i would have to spend 11,538 on *taxable* items to pay $1500 in a year. - Andie Feb 17, 12:38 17
        
        right, unless you're Sarah Jessica Parker with clothes, you're not getting there. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:39 9
        
        No, but I'm not *that* far either - Guigue Feb 17, 12:41 8
        
        What's taxed there? Mortgage....rent.....anything that is a transaction? - Will Hunting Feb 17, 12:43 5
        
        Yeah, very few would ever hit $18,000 per household. That was my bad. However, most services get hit. Clothes. Cars. New homes. - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 12:48
        
        not everything. and it varies by province. but generally things like groceries, no tax, resale houses, no tax, some places kids clothes, no tax. -- nm - Andie Feb 17, 12:44 3
        
        Yeah, then you'd have to be absurdly spendy to reach this level. -- nm - Will Hunting Feb 17, 12:46 1
        
        (and Guigue was trying to figure if he go to that figure in a *year* not a *month*.) -- nm - Andie Feb 17, 12:47
        
        No taxes on hard drugs and hookers either - Guigue Feb 17, 12:45
        
        (Which doesn't much matter much in the dicsussion anyway, since we're comparing month vs. year. I'm just saying) - Guigue Feb 17, 12:43 1
        
        (I'm not drunk BTW, not really) -- nm - Guigue Feb 17, 12:44
        
        How about you and Dave combined? Because the Cobra payments are household costs, are they not? -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 12:39 6
        
        are you telling me that a *couple* would get Cobra coverage, for a *year*, for $1500? no, that's monthly. - Andie Feb 17, 12:41 2
        
        No, not $1,500 a month, no. But have you ever really looked at how much tax you do pay? - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 12:45 1
        
        of course i do. -- nm - Andie Feb 17, 12:47
        
        Oh shit. Totally went over my head that it was annual vs monthly. Call off the dogs. - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 12:41 1
        
        Right, that was my way of highlighting the gap. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:44
        
        and *monthly*. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:41
      - Yes, but we still have the GST. Also, I'd bet there's no way *you* pay $1500 a year in sales tax, unless you bought a car or a house this year. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:36 2
        
        (a new hours, I should add) -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:38 1
        
        hours? house. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:38
    - i would gladly pay that much a year extra in taxes if it meant the money was not going to health insureance companies -- nm - moles, ex-federal agent Feb 17, 12:23 1
      - this -- nm - Epiphany Feb 17, 12:27
  - I wouldn't be shocked, I'd be grateful. -- nm - mara Feb 17, 12:21
  - 30 Rock was awesome for this last week "SOMEONE TAKE OUR MONEY!" -- nm - Beaker Feb 17, 12:20
  - aren't the state and federal income tax rates also a bit lower than in canada? -- nm - Beryllium Feb 17, 12:19 3
    - the top marginal rates are lower. They come out to about a wash. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:21 2
      - [deleted] 1
        
        this is just my understanding, that for the average middle-class worker in the US and Canada. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:33
  - Bring it. I pay over $500 a month now, and I still had to pay thousands for my sinus surgery. -- nm - Amy Feb 17, 12:18
  - we already pay 9% state in California, so raise that bitch if it means i can get health care -- nm - moles, ex-federal agent Feb 17, 12:17
  - i agree that we all pay, but we have no fear of being turned down, or having to appeal a claim. -- nm - Andie Feb 17, 12:16 1
    - we live for the fear! -- nm - Max Feb 17, 12:17
  - Just the unpatriotic ones. -- nm - J.Biden Feb 17, 12:16
- We cannot afford a Canadian magnetic resonance imaging gap! -- nm - Surgeon General Buck Turgidson Feb 17, 12:10

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