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In response to "*not* conscience shocking -- nm" by moles, ex-federal agent

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This comes up every time, but the fact that this cost is taken for granted just for insurance that might pay for health care is an incredible sign

Posted by Reagen (aka Reagen) Feb 17 '11, 12:06

that things are out of whack.

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Yes, but how many Americans would be shocked at a 12% or 13% combined sales tax rate? - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 12:14 44
- That's $18,000 a year....I'd have to pay about 70% sales tax on applicable items to reach that point a year. - Will Hunting Feb 17, 12:38
- I pay 14% sales tax any time I'm in Pigeon Forge. -- nm - David Feb 17, 12:35 1
  - aka "The Devil's Anvil" -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:37
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- there's no way I pay $1500 a *year* in sales tax. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:22 28
  - No, but you live in Alberta, which doesn't have a provincial portion. Betcha many Canadians households in the 12% or more provinces get there. - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 12:38 2
    - then times it by 12. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:39 1
      - "times it"? How very fifth grade of you. - David Feb 17, 12:41
  - Aren't you in Alberta? -- nm - Guigue Feb 17, 12:35 22
    - i'm in ontario (land of 13% tax) and there is no way in hell i come close either. -- nm - Andie Feb 17, 12:36 18
      - i would have to spend 11,538 on *taxable* items to pay $1500 in a year. - Andie Feb 17, 12:38 17
        
        right, unless you're Sarah Jessica Parker with clothes, you're not getting there. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:39 9
        
        No, but I'm not *that* far either - Guigue Feb 17, 12:41 8
        
        What's taxed there? Mortgage....rent.....anything that is a transaction? - Will Hunting Feb 17, 12:43 5
        
        Yeah, very few would ever hit $18,000 per household. That was my bad. However, most services get hit. Clothes. Cars. New homes. - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 12:48
        
        not everything. and it varies by province. but generally things like groceries, no tax, resale houses, no tax, some places kids clothes, no tax. -- nm - Andie Feb 17, 12:44 3
        
        Yeah, then you'd have to be absurdly spendy to reach this level. -- nm - Will Hunting Feb 17, 12:46 1
        
        (and Guigue was trying to figure if he go to that figure in a *year* not a *month*.) -- nm - Andie Feb 17, 12:47
        
        No taxes on hard drugs and hookers either - Guigue Feb 17, 12:45
        
        (Which doesn't much matter much in the dicsussion anyway, since we're comparing month vs. year. I'm just saying) - Guigue Feb 17, 12:43 1
        
        (I'm not drunk BTW, not really) -- nm - Guigue Feb 17, 12:44
        
        How about you and Dave combined? Because the Cobra payments are household costs, are they not? -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 12:39 6
        
        are you telling me that a *couple* would get Cobra coverage, for a *year*, for $1500? no, that's monthly. - Andie Feb 17, 12:41 2
        
        No, not $1,500 a month, no. But have you ever really looked at how much tax you do pay? - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 12:45 1
        
        of course i do. -- nm - Andie Feb 17, 12:47
        
        Oh shit. Totally went over my head that it was annual vs monthly. Call off the dogs. - Name Withheld By Request Feb 17, 12:41 1
        
        Right, that was my way of highlighting the gap. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:44
        
        and *monthly*. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:41
    - Yes, but we still have the GST. Also, I'd bet there's no way *you* pay $1500 a year in sales tax, unless you bought a car or a house this year. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:36 2
      - (a new hours, I should add) -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:38 1
        
        hours? house. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:38
  - i would gladly pay that much a year extra in taxes if it meant the money was not going to health insureance companies -- nm - moles, ex-federal agent Feb 17, 12:23 1
    - this -- nm - Epiphany Feb 17, 12:27
- I wouldn't be shocked, I'd be grateful. -- nm - mara Feb 17, 12:21
- 30 Rock was awesome for this last week "SOMEONE TAKE OUR MONEY!" -- nm - Beaker Feb 17, 12:20
- aren't the state and federal income tax rates also a bit lower than in canada? -- nm - Beryllium Feb 17, 12:19 3
  - the top marginal rates are lower. They come out to about a wash. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:21 2
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      - this is just my understanding, that for the average middle-class worker in the US and Canada. -- nm - Reagen Feb 17, 12:33
- Bring it. I pay over $500 a month now, and I still had to pay thousands for my sinus surgery. -- nm - Amy Feb 17, 12:18
- we already pay 9% state in California, so raise that bitch if it means i can get health care -- nm - moles, ex-federal agent Feb 17, 12:17
- i agree that we all pay, but we have no fear of being turned down, or having to appeal a claim. -- nm - Andie Feb 17, 12:16 1
  - we live for the fear! -- nm - Max Feb 17, 12:17
- Just the unpatriotic ones. -- nm - J.Biden Feb 17, 12:16
We cannot afford a Canadian magnetic resonance imaging gap! -- nm - Surgeon General Buck Turgidson Feb 17, 12:10

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