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You know, thinking about my question on B2 and the debate that followed... Do we really want this "leave the state" strategy to become normal?

Posted by Name Withheld By Request (aka BlueKopo) Feb 24 '11, 10:03

IE, if the Dems pull it on this, the Reps will fire back with a quid pro quo on some other issue. You know it will happen if the practice gets rewarded here.

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But it will happen going the other way. Had the Republicans done it last year on health care in DC, would those supportive of the move remain so? - Name Withheld By Request Feb 24, 10:14 5
- The GOP had Senate rules that are arguably abused to protect the minority. - Will Hunting Feb 24, 10:18 1
  - Gotcha. So its more restrictive to a handful of states where it can work. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Feb 24, 10:22
- because of the Senate rule there, they never had to, but they effectively did the same thing. -- nm - Reagen Feb 24, 10:16 1
  - Bad example then. I was just looking for a "big game changing piece of legislation" from the other side of the ledger. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Feb 24, 10:23
- I agree. You either support this type of thing or don't. Most people are probably siding based on the issue, not the tactic. - ty97 Feb 24, 10:16
Rather appropriately, if you're a big fan of unions and their tactics, 'going on strike' isn't going to seem that unnatural or abhorrent. - Dr.Vermin Feb 24, 10:08 3
- I've seen a report that a couple of the GOP WI state senators are willing to compromise - Reagen Feb 24, 10:11
- To your IM: One other thing they are doing is raising awareness/publicity. - ty97 Feb 24, 10:10 1
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After some of the idiocy I've seen passed off as 'leadership', I'd prefer they all leave the state/nation quite frequently. -- nm - Will Hunting Feb 24, 10:06
Ours left and our right to work bill is now "dead". -- nm - Amy Feb 24, 10:06
used sparingly, I don't have a problem with it. -- nm - Reagen Feb 24, 10:05 14
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  - spiral is a concern, but for the quorum issue, the visibility of it will make it more difficult to abuse. - Reagen Feb 24, 10:18
  - it used to be rare, because it had a consequence, namely being stuck on the floor reading from the phone book for hours on end. -- nm - znufrii Feb 24, 10:17
- This. The Founding Fathers didn't design government to "get things done" all the time. - con_carne Feb 24, 10:10 9
  - I agree with your overall point. Our stupid Drug War is an example of when stuff starts getting passed too quickly in the heat of the moment. - Dr.Vermin Feb 24, 10:16
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  - except they were designed to protect legislators who were not able to travel to the capitol for whatever reason, not to give them reason to leave it. -- nm - znufrii Feb 24, 10:13
  - Wow. - Strongbad Feb 24, 10:12 5
    - Show me where the Wisconsin government services have ceased? That's a pretty big difference you overlook. - Will Hunting Feb 24, 10:20 3
      - There's a difference, sure. Not a big one. -- nm - Strongbad Feb 24, 10:22 2
        
        Sure it is...it's a massive thing. The GOP in 95/96, shut down government and all it provides (ie a shitton that effects people) - Will Hunting Feb 24, 10:24 1
        
        They both walked away from the table at the expense of doing their job they were elected for and tackling a tough issue. - Strongbad Feb 24, 10:25
    - stopping the legislative process /= shutting down the government -- nm - znufrii Feb 24, 10:14
- (for example: Elijah Harper) -- nm - Reagen Feb 24, 10:07
It speaks for how sad politics as a whole have become. - Strongbad Feb 24, 10:04

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You know, thinking about my question on B2 and the debate that followed... Do we really want this "leave the state" strategy to become normal?

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