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In response to "Yeah, I keep thinking that Spencer is fake and it putting on an act. It is simply not possible for him to be such an a-hole and have her put up with " by James Bond (aka Igor)

agreed on all counts.

especially the slap. ;) -

actually, the spencer thing - i think he may be that much of a scumbag. i'm not sure if heidi is or isn't in on things - sometimes i think so, but then there are so many signs of manipulation, like what he said in the proposal. eh.

i just keep hoping the girls watching learn from what they're seeing on the show, good and bad; and that boys don't think spencer's crap is ok.

(i am so old. ;) -)


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