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Lilyhammer, episode 7. There's a scene at the local high school... - Mop Dec 21, 09:33 3
- I don't actually remember what you're talking about. -- nm - Kim Pine Dec 21, 09:38 2
  - Well endowed blonde Norwegian high school seniors. - Mop Dec 21, 09:39 1
    - Oh, okay. I do know what you're talking about. - Kim Pine Dec 21, 09:41
Honestly, the kid who plans to shoot up a school just kills the armed guard first when he isn't expectedint iy. It's not rocket science to get around -- nm - Beaker Dec 21, 09:27 19
- or he finds another target. - groiny Dec 21, 09:31 18
  - if the guy is mentally disturbed enough to shoot up a school, one single armed guard is not going to deter him. - tRuMaN 24601 Dec 21, 09:33 6
    - They just plan more carefully. Let's not forget that Columbine did in fact have an armed guard. -- nm - Kim Pine Dec 21, 09:37 2
      - i am still going to argue that that planning, whatever it entails, is not what most would consider rational. - tRuMaN 24601 Dec 21, 09:39 1
        
        I agree. That points even more to their irrationality. -- nm - Kim Pine Dec 21, 09:42
    - They're rational enough to pick gun-free zones instead of police stations or gun shows. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Dec 21, 09:34 2
      - or Fort Hood...oh, wait. -- nm - znufrii Dec 21, 09:36
      - i'm not sure that is rational thought either, but mayhap i am using the wrong term to describe. - tRuMaN 24601 Dec 21, 09:35
  - Why is kicking the mass-murder can down the road any better? -- nm - Will Hunting Dec 21, 09:32 10
    - it feels better if it is not 6 year olds. nm -- nm - groiny Dec 21, 09:32 9
      - It still feels a lot crappier than none dead. (nm) - musubi Dec 21, 09:35
      - i think the fundamental difference here is that you think an armed guard will make your kids safer, and others feel the opposite. -- nm - Andie Dec 21, 09:33 3
        
        I feel like at the very least, it will give them a chance to get out of harms way. nm -- nm - groiny Dec 21, 09:34 2
        
        see, i don't, *bang* guard is dead. moving on. -- nm - Andie Dec 21, 09:35 1
        
        Or guard is eating lunch, perp plans their crime around that time. -- nm - Kim Pine Dec 21, 09:39
      - That's a very cynical way of looking at it. -- nm - Kim Pine Dec 21, 09:33 2
        
        it is, but it is how I feel. nm -- nm - groiny Dec 21, 09:33 1
        
        Changing the target doesn't *fix* anything. - musubi Dec 21, 09:37
      - No, it really does not. -- nm - TWuG Dec 21, 09:33
In honor of the world ending, please to enjoy this classic Rowan Atkinson skit about Hell -- (link) - Was Bar Was Dec 21, 09:26 [youtube]
Obama has had a very strange quarter. - David Dec 21, 09:22 2
- presidentin is hard. nm -- nm - groiny Dec 21, 09:26
- imma turn that frown upside down, O. -- nm - Treebeard si Dec 21, 09:24
FF Reminder: Saturday game tomorrow (Falcons at Lions), no MNF -- nm - Strongbad Dec 21, 09:18
New Les Mis soundtrack on Amazon for $5 -- (link) - oblique Dec 21, 09:16 2
- *Nice*! Thank you. -- nm - Dr.Vermin Dec 21, 09:17 1
  - has anyone tried the Rod Stewart Christmas album? any good? worth the $? -- nm - Pippy Bells Dec 21, 09:23
I know it's early. FF QB's: Is Russell Wilson a QB starter next year? Or just an above-average backup? -- nm - Strongbad Dec 21, 09:15 9
- He's in that 11-14 range imo with guys like Dalton, Freeman, Schaub. -- nm - Will Hunting Dec 21, 09:20
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  - One of my biggest offseason decisions is going to be whether I want to keep him. The price would be the 57th pick in the draft. (5-1) -- nm - Strongbad Dec 21, 09:20 6
    - To compare, in my league this year 8 QB's were gone at #57. -- nm - Strongbad Dec 21, 09:22 5
      - Including keepers? -- nm - TFox Dec 21, 09:23 4
        
        Yes. -- nm - Strongbad Dec 21, 09:24 1
        
        Into the pool he goes. He's not top 8. -- nm - Will Hunting Dec 21, 09:34
        
        (because I don't think he is a top 8 QB) -- nm - TFox Dec 21, 09:23 1
        
        I think it is a stretch. At this point I'm leaning towards no. - Strongbad Dec 21, 09:26
Max-con One! Max-con One! -- nm - Honeybanked Ham Security Dec 21, 09:14 1
- I could imagine this scene in a Happy Endings episode. -- nm - Max Dec 21, 09:15
CBS Sports: Tyler Bray is going to the NFL. -- (link) - Strongbad Dec 21, 09:11 3
- I will be curious to see where he lands. His tools are outrageous but he is so immature. -- nm - David Dec 21, 09:13
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  - I feel the exact same about Aaron Murray and Logan Thomas. -- nm - Strongbad Dec 21, 09:13
There would be a way, if they really wanted to do this. - Kim Pine Dec 21, 09:05 58
- I posted a couple of days ago that I wanted to get rid of the guns we have. I called police in two jurisdictions, the ATF and the State police. - TWuG Dec 21, 09:09 35
  - can you post this to the Consumerist? or the govt/gun related equivalent? -- nm - Beaker Dec 21, 09:23 8
    - I'm thinking of turning it into a letter to the president, honestly. -- nm - TWuG Dec 21, 09:25 7
      - You should do your best to turn it viral. -- nm - Strongbad Dec 21, 09:27 6
        
        The issue I'm having, and ST can confirm, is that I am NOT a good face for this argument. - TWuG Dec 21, 09:31 5
        
        Seriously, you are ass-ugly. :P -- nm - Will Hunting Dec 21, 09:31 4
        
        I make up for it with charm. :-) -- nm - TWuG Dec 21, 09:32 3
        
        debateable. nm -- nm - groiny Dec 21, 09:32 2
        
        Is there even a debate? -- nm - Roger More Dec 21, 09:33 1
        
        this is ST, we can debate the shit out of anything. -- nm - groiny Dec 21, 09:34
  - Makes you wonder what they do with seized guns. Some jurisdictions melt them down. -- nm - mara christmas, movie house! Dec 21, 09:15 1
    - at lot sell them at auctions...note some of these guns have collector value -- nm - 4droidz a texting Dec 21, 13:55
  - They'll want them if you turn them into evidence. -- nm - Max Dec 21, 09:14 3
    - I spoke to Evidence. "no room, sorry." -- nm - TWuG Dec 21, 09:15 2
      - Not "turn them in to"; "turn them into." -- nm - mara christmas, movie house! Dec 21, 09:16 1
        
        I think I'll avoid the "use them criminally" scenario for now, thanks. :-) -- nm - TWuG Dec 21, 09:17
  - yeah, and you think getting unwilling owner's guns if going to happen? nm -- nm - groiny Dec 21, 09:11
  - Drop it in the salvation army bucket -- nm - oblique Dec 21, 09:11
  - that's a mess. -- nm - Andie Dec 21, 09:10
  - Oh, wow. That's crazy. - Kim Pine Dec 21, 09:09 16
    - The ATF agent I spoke with had, in 20+ years, never taken a call like mine, so I can see it maybe not being - TWuG Dec 21, 09:13 15
      - you can not sell them to a local gun shop? nm -- nm - groiny Dec 21, 09:18 14
        
        Sure, if I wanted to put them back into circulation. I want them destroyed. -- nm - TWuG Dec 21, 09:23 13
        
        curious why you think it makes a difference? -- nm - znufrii Dec 21, 09:25 11
        
        Becuse a person wanting less guns will want them destroyed, not sold to someone else? - Will Hunting Dec 21, 09:29
        
        Because 300,000,000 less 3 is smaller than 300,000,000. -- nm - TWuG Dec 21, 09:27 4
        
        *manufactures 3 more guns to make up the difference* - Smith & Wesson Dec 21, 09:29 1
        
        The Unicorns are gonna be so sad that you stopped believing in them. - musubi Dec 21, 09:39
        
        And .99999999... = 1 -- nm - mara christmas, movie house! Dec 21, 09:29 1
        
        Switch doors! (nm) - musubi Dec 21, 09:31
        
        This is perhaps the dumbest question you've ever asked. - musubi Dec 21, 09:27 4
        
        it's a question of substitutability - znufrii Dec 21, 09:31 3
        
        This is like saying "my vote won't matter". It's nonsense. - musubi Dec 21, 09:38
        
        This like saying "one vote doesn't make a difference". It never does, but it doesn't mean no-one should vote. -- nm - Roger More Dec 21, 09:34
        
        Sure, but it won't be one that I once owned, will it? -- nm - TWuG Dec 21, 09:33
        
        Get a hacksaw. - Dr.Vermin Dec 21, 09:25
- I completely agree, there should be a number of things put into place. - groiny Dec 21, 09:07 21
  - groiny, there is no solution that is going to happen instantly. Even staffing schools with security can't happen tomorrow because they have to - Kim Pine Dec 21, 09:08 8
    - and be recruited and trained. -- nm - Roger More Dec 21, 09:12 7
      - there are 10 retired police officers who work security at the local megabar. - groiny Dec 21, 09:14 6
        
        Where are these already underfunded schools going to come up with all this cash? -- nm - Kim Pine Dec 21, 09:14 5
        
        Oddly, if schools tried to pass a levy for security, it'd pass easily. But try to pass a levy for books? Good luck. -- nm - TWuG Dec 21, 09:16 2
        
        books don't kill people, crazy people with books do. nm -- nm - groiny Dec 21, 09:16 1
        
        Books don't cause knee-jerk reaction, crazy people with guns do -- nm - Guigue Dec 21, 09:18
        
        again, there are ways if they really wanted to do this. - groiny Dec 21, 09:16 1
        
        My initial thought was: hold some bake sales to pay for a round of handgun training... - Dr.Vermin Dec 21, 09:27
  - i don't know why you think an armed guard is the only way to do this (or that that would even work.) -- nm - Andie Dec 21, 09:08 11
    - because it is fast, and fairly easy. - groiny Dec 21, 09:10 10
      - it's not like a guard has never been overtaken before. i just don't think it would stop a serious assault. so why put another gun in a school. -- nm - Andie Dec 21, 09:12
      - ....it is neither of those things. -- nm - TFox Dec 21, 09:11 8
        
        I can hire a security guard and get him to my office by Monday. nm -- nm - groiny Dec 21, 09:12 7
        
        A well trained one that you would trust the life of your kids with? Now factor that with the life of 500-600 kids. - musubi Dec 21, 09:26 2
        
        maybe I am. - groiny Dec 21, 09:31 1
        
        There is no magical solution. Nothing eliminates violence completely. - musubi Dec 21, 09:33
        
        Now, hire 100 of them for a town...teach them the protocols of defending large sprawling buildings - Will Hunting Dec 21, 09:13
        
        you think school boards have that kind of surplus sitting there today? they don't. they can't pay for books. -- nm - Andie Dec 21, 09:13 2
        
        plus the millions of parents who would be in an uproar. plus the billions of dollars. plus plus plus... - TFox Dec 21, 09:15
        
        no, I do not, but it takes one person in office to offer them some sort of incentive. - groiny Dec 21, 09:15
I've been stalked - very ferociously and completely by a Nekkid Crazy Mel!! - Pippy Bells Dec 21, 09:04 6
- woo-hoo!! yay!! - Diva Dec 21, 09:19 1
  - *kiss, kiss* -- nm - Pippy Bells Dec 21, 09:24
- photo on facebook - OH!! Oh!! Black Lightening also got a present - a green alligator with 16 different squeakers - Pippy Bells Dec 21, 09:09
- coolio -- nm - budice Dec 21, 09:06
- very nice - that shirt cracks me up -- nm - prayformojo Dec 21, 09:06 1
  - funny cause its true. I can' wait to wear it to work on Casual Friday - Pippy Bells Dec 21, 09:10
David : from B2, I know that story, I would not really call that "accidentally" - groiny Dec 21, 09:03 15
- i am pretty sure no matter what the kid was doing he wouldn't have shot him. - Andie Dec 21, 09:06
- Well. It was dark and he heard a noise. Fog of war is always a factor. -- nm - David Dec 21, 09:04
- Word -- nm - Trayvon Martin Dec 21, 09:04 12
  - also, not an accident. nm -- nm - groiny Dec 21, 09:05 11
    - So it not being an accident somehow makes it better? - musubi Dec 21, 09:28
    - No, that was a faux-hero playing with a gun and killing a kid. - Will Hunting Dec 21, 09:08
    - well as long as all these new school guards aren't racist cowboys who profile black kids in hoodies, you're right. our schools are safe -- nm - prisoner 24601 Dec 21, 09:08 7
      - *hands pixie a Jump to Conclusions mat* -- nm - Strongbad Dec 21, 09:38
      - well, to be truthful, there is no reason why that dude who killed Trevon should have been in that position - groiny Dec 21, 09:09 5
        
        completely true. but this is EXACTLY the problem with easily accessible guns. -- nm - Andie Dec 21, 09:10 4
        
        he could have just as easily stabbed him to death. nm -- nm - groiny Dec 21, 09:12 3
        
        It's*NOT* just as easy to stab someone than to shoot them. - musubi Dec 21, 09:30
        
        no, he couldn't. the kid would have had a change, hell, the kid could have just outran him, -- nm - Andie Dec 21, 09:14 1
        
        (chance) -- nm - Andie Dec 21, 09:14
    - does that matter? it's irresponsible gun ownership. innocent people died in the name 'of 'self protection'. -- nm - Andie Dec 21, 09:06
Speaking of guards, I can't remember the last time I saw one in a bank. I have however seen one at a Honey Baked Ham store. -- nm - Max Dec 21, 08:58 7
- This always amused me re: guard staffing. When my bank was robbed in the Bellevue Kroger... - TFox Dec 21, 09:05 2
  - I saw a poster on the window of my branch that had a camera image of a guy that had robbed that bank for the third time. - Max Dec 21, 09:09 1
    - it's relatively small sums in most instances because of drawer limits. -- nm - TFox Dec 21, 09:13
- My uncle from my first marriage was a security cop at Piccadilly. - David Dec 21, 09:02
- Well, first you get the ham, then you get the power... -- nm - Roger More Dec 21, 08:59
- I have seen them at Target, but not at a bank -- nm - amoxy Dec 21, 08:59
- they knew you were coming, ham thief -- nm - prisoner 24601 Dec 21, 08:59
Excel help please. I think this is an easy one... - Jovian Dec 21, 08:57 3
- thanks guys, I figured it was simple. -- nm - Jovian Dec 21, 09:02
- add column C =IF(A1=B1, "TRUE", "") -- nm - znufrii Dec 21, 08:59
- if(A1=B1,"Y","N") -- nm - TFox Dec 21, 08:59
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- Oh, i am not sorry -- nm - amoxy - Aaron Hernandez Owner Dec 21, 09:00
Who wins the following (NFL): Dallas/NO Minn/Hou SD/NYJ NYG/Bal SF/Sea -- nm - prayformojo Dec 21, 08:56 5
- NO, HOU, SD, NYG, SF -- nm - No. 1 Stephen in the nation! Dec 21, 09:02
- NO / Hou / SD / Giants / home team. -- nm - Will Hunting Dec 21, 08:59
- NO, Hou, SD, Bal, SF -- nm - amoxy Dec 21, 08:58
- Dan Patrick had an interesting scenario about the first game. IF NO wins, Dallas is eliminated - amoxy Dec 21, 08:58
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LIR: MDH. I think the SimCity games are always great (Cities XL is also good and available on Steam) -- nm - oblique Dec 21, 08:55 8
- MDH, check out GOG.com. It's a collection of older games that has quite a few older sim type games. -- nm - spamlet Dec 21, 09:00
- purchased Tropico 4 when it was on sale for $7. Very fun little city builder too. And have had my eyes on Cities XL for awhile. Though FTL gets my - Jovian Dec 21, 08:58 6
  - I loved the original Tropico. Haven't played any further than that. I'm excited for the new SimCity though. -- nm - spamlet Dec 21, 09:00 4
    - I'm glad there's some interest on the boards here for it. I'm looking forward to checking out regional play with STers -- nm - oblique Dec 21, 09:02 3
      - I watched a couple of the YouTube videos. I still have SC2000 on my laptop and play it. - spamlet Dec 21, 09:03 2
        
        That being said, I still need to get a PC to play it. -- nm - spamlet Dec 21, 09:04
        
        I've bought every version although I've played less and less over the years. They later games weren't enough different from the original - oblique Dec 21, 09:04
  - My sister loves sims and she loves Tropico. That's a great choice. -- nm - oblique Dec 21, 08:59
*guards B2* -- nm - znufrii Dec 21, 08:55 2
- *waits and watches to learn your daily routine, accounts for it in my plan* - prisoner 24601 Dec 21, 08:57
- *shoots out B2s back door window while you're guarding the front door* -- nm - mara Dec 21, 08:56
Roll this stretchy board! -- nm - Jovian Dec 21, 08:55
Thanks for the B2 help. I couldn't conceptualize it. Was able to work back to figure out what my kid needs to get a B in Spanish - oblique Dec 21, 08:55 6
- That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give... -- nm - Roger More Dec 21, 08:58 5
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  - unless 1 actualy = 1.11111111111111111111111111 -- nm - prisoner 24601 Dec 21, 08:58
  - heh -- nm - prayformojo Dec 21, 08:58
  - Extra credit? -- nm - oblique Dec 21, 08:58 1
    - I should have used the quotation marks. -- nm - Roger More Dec 21, 08:59

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