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Wisconsin is Biden's -- (link) - TWuG Nov 4, 08:44 4
- "20,697 is a small-enough margin for Trump to request a recount under Wisconsin law, but a big-enough margin where the recount has almost no - mara Nov 4, 08:47 2
  - and nearly identical to the margin he won WI by in 2016. I do like the irony -- nm - oblique Nov 4, 08:51
  - in your face, Bigly! -- nm - loosilu Nov 4, 08:47
- sweet! -- nm - loosilu Nov 4, 08:47
MDH / Ty: Are you 'attending' the Kylie concert this weekend? -- (link) - JD Nov 4, 08:42
My take on this is accurate, right? -- (link) - Beryllium Nov 4, 08:39 2
- In this case, the exit polls are a mix of election day polling, early in person voting polling, and calling those who voted by mail. -- nm - Inigo Nov 4, 08:43
- NBC said that exit poll took into account early voters -- nm - crash davis Nov 4, 08:42
Looks like Biden needs about 78% of the remaining votes to get Georgia. -- (link) - spamlet Nov 4, 08:37 2
- Sec of State said 250000 -- nm - eag Nov 4, 08:49
- With apparently thousands of mail in ballots undelivered there. -- nm - pmb Nov 4, 08:48
Apparently a few people also voted for more coronavirus mutations? Eff those people. -- (link) - Beryllium Nov 4, 08:35
So, online sports betting won big yesterday. SD, MD, and LA. -- nm - Will Hunting Nov 4, 08:31
EC - the 12.7M people in Illinois have 20% less say in the president than the 6.7M people of WY, VT, AK, ND, SD, MT, RI, and DE -- nm - crash davis Nov 4, 08:28 13
- Yes, but you've seen how IL is run. They should expect that. -- nm - spamlet Nov 4, 08:59
- CA has approximately 10% of the US population. Neither candidate really campaigned here and the only ads I saw were national ads, they didn't even - jnine Nov 4, 08:43 2
  - The Dodgers is all you get! -- nm - crash davis Nov 4, 08:49 1
    - We got the Lakers too! -- nm - jnine Nov 4, 08:56
- In other words kilbo, you're roughly 45% the man that either Vermin or TFox is -- nm - crash davis Nov 4, 08:31 8
  - This is likely true :) -- nm - oblique Nov 4, 08:34 7
    - I suggest a lot of Chipotle to double your size -- nm - crash davis Nov 4, 08:35 6
      - I had Chipotle AND Qdoba while in Colorado - oblique Nov 4, 08:37 5
        
        Qdoba > Chipotle -- nm - decline Nov 4, 08:40
        
        I've had Qdoba, but I've never actually had Chipotle. Which one is better? -- nm - crash davis Nov 4, 08:38 1
        
        Qdoba is arguably better. Certainly from a value standpoint but the food quality is equal or better as well. -- nm - oblique Nov 4, 08:41
        
        what colleges? -- nm - loosilu Nov 4, 08:38 1
        
        We visited UNC. We also drove by/saw Boulder, Colorado State, and the University of Denver. Only UNC was doing guided tours -- nm - oblique Nov 4, 08:42
DecisionDesk now saying WI is 49.6 - 48.9 Biden with 99% in. -- nm - mara Nov 4, 08:28
Hi ST! Miss you and hope everyone is doing well. This is too important in my head not to pass on. Stop the “count the votes” nonsense. Biden needs to - JackDawson Nov 4, 08:24 10
- I don’t even like you that much and I miss you. So... -- nm - Qale Nov 4, 08:55
- Nice to see you Jack. And I agree with what you're saying. -- nm - pmb Nov 4, 08:53
- There used to be a guy with this handle that posted here, but he disappeared into the night. Please change your nick. (NM) - Marlowe Nov 4, 08:47
- Nice to see you! So, It looks like it will officially be 270 today. - loosilu Nov 4, 08:31 2
  - That's what I thought, but apparently not without Nevada? -- nm - mara Nov 4, 08:35 1
    - Oh, I missed that. -- nm - loosilu Nov 4, 08:36
- So happy to see you back - that makes 3 in the past two days! And certainly agree with the message!! -- nm - Meg Nov 4, 08:29
- agreed! (hi!!) -- nm - mud Nov 4, 08:27
- 1. i miss you. 2. this post makes me happy. -- nm - Andie Nov 4, 08:27
- Sure. I’ll get the Biden campaign on the phone right away to let them know. - znufrii Nov 4, 08:25
Great. Illinois' graduated tax amendment didn't pass. Those who campaigned against it ran just a fundamentally dishonest campaign, and yet, they won - pmb Nov 4, 08:16 4
- I think the Biden campaign didn't push the tax narrative enough. They should have kept hammering that Trump had already passed a law to raise most - jnine Nov 4, 08:47
- Those darn Springfield politicians wanting to raise taxes! Every anti ad I saw was ridiculous. -- nm - TWuG Nov 4, 08:18 2
  - It was just a blatant lie. Arguing that it gave the legislature new power to raise taxes without voter approval is just ridiculous. That's the way it is now. -- (edited) - pmb Nov 4, 08:23 1
    - Yep. I've voted for the graduated tax every time it's appeared on the ballot -- nm - TWuG Nov 4, 08:24
NFL: 49ers facility shut down due to COVID test results. -- nm - Strongbad Nov 4, 08:15
Haiku trip review - oblique Nov 4, 08:14 1
- Um. 5...7... um.. 4? -- nm - Qale Nov 4, 08:56
JD, here's a quick trip report. - David Nov 4, 08:05 19
- Thanks 8-) - JD Nov 4, 08:19 2
  - In all sincerity, a Monday-Thursday trip is much better than a weekend one. -- nm - David Nov 4, 08:21 1
    - (with parks at 25% capacity anyway) -- nm - David Nov 4, 08:21
- We love playing Space Ranger Spin. I always get my ass kicked. - Strongbad Nov 4, 08:16 2
  - I usually beat Kim at Toy Story Mania!, but she's damn near invincible at Space Ranger Spin. - David Nov 4, 08:18 1
    - There are secret locations that aren't easily identified. -- nm - Strongbad Nov 4, 08:19
- I love this write up. It sounds so wonderful in the midst of a lot of tribulations. -- nm - Qale Nov 4, 08:14 6
  - I really think I might always go to Disney the week of big elections. It stopped me from getting obsessed with situations I cannot change. -- nm - David Nov 4, 08:15 3
    - Another really good time to visit the parks - Strongbad Nov 4, 08:21
    - I’ve wanted to go to Pandora in the Animal Kingdom so bad. -- nm - Qale Nov 4, 08:17 1
      - It's remarkably realistic. Disney achieved something special with Pandora. -- nm - David Nov 4, 08:19
  - we need happy news from the Happiest Place on Earth -- nm - Epiphany Nov 4, 08:14
  - Very much this. -- nm - loosilu Nov 4, 08:14
- Yay!! trip review thanks -- nm - Epiphany Nov 4, 08:12
- "quick" -- nm - decline Nov 4, 08:08 4
  - That is quick. That's an extended weekend recap on a screen or two. - JD Nov 4, 08:29
  - You should read Disney trip reviews on fansites. They've been known to pass 20k words and take two weeks to finish. - David Nov 4, 08:14
  - 5PD gotta 5P. -- nm - loosilu Nov 4, 08:11 1
    - for reals - Epiphany Nov 4, 08:13
Yeah... this was going to be a big mess all along. -- (link) - Dano Nov 4, 07:59 [Backboard]
Scott Walker says WI is basically done. -- (link) - spamlet Nov 4, 07:55 2
- Looks like issue with AZ data feeds. AP may have called too early. -- (link) - spamlet Nov 4, 08:05 1
  - I'm still hoping for the Cindy McCain factor to deliver it. -- nm - loosilu Nov 4, 08:32
Crazy close race in the 14th (Underwood) in Illinois and mail in ballots that arrive up to two weeks later can be counted. Google shows about 895 - oblique Nov 4, 07:55 3
- Straight Outta Vernon Hills, represent! -- nm - budice Nov 4, 08:13
- Oberweis might actually win an election? -- nm - spamlet Nov 4, 08:08 1
  - IKR -- nm - oblique Nov 4, 08:08
Politically, the most valuable real estate this cycle might turn out to be frikkin Omaha. Lawdy, lawdy, lawdy we need election reform -- nm - crash davis Nov 4, 07:51 34
- Lawdy Miss Clawdy -- (link) - mud Nov 4, 08:10 [youtube]
- I really want to do away with the Electoral College. Granted I don't really understand the EC, but I know it's messed up recent elections. -- nm - sycor Nov 4, 07:57 29
  - It can't be abolished without a Constitutional amendment, but there are possible workarounds. There are also enough swing states that election reform - mara Nov 4, 08:05
  - It was designed, along with the 3/5 compromise, to provide assurance to slave holding states that they would maintain - TWuG Nov 4, 08:05
  - Nothing is "messed up". It works as intended. Popular vote elections would be dramatically different in the US (urban areas only, rural areas fucked) - oblique Nov 4, 08:04 26
    - This urban vs rural thing makes no sense to me. Votes should count the same no matter where people live. -- nm - mara Nov 4, 08:09 16
      - If the electoral college is ideal, why do we use the popular vote to elect governors? Shouldn't people in rural counties have more say than Chicago? -- nm - mara Nov 4, 08:11
      - US Elections are not directly made by people. States elect presidents. People decide how their state votes. -- nm* - oblique Nov 4, 08:10 14
        
        But it has given voters in some states inordinate power. At the senate level as well. These things were put in place to prevent a tyranny of the - pmb Nov 4, 08:15 1
        
        I don't disagree. I just also think that we probably need to tread lightly here as a country -- nm - oblique Nov 4, 08:17
        
        I know how it works. I was addressing your "dramatically different" statement, as it seemed to imply the difference is undesirable. -- nm - mara Nov 4, 08:13 11
        
        The election would be dominated by some very large urban centers (LA, Chicago, NY) where large swaths of the US would essentially be ignored - oblique Nov 4, 08:16 10
        
        CA was completely ignored this election and the last 3. No one campaigned here or bought ads.They only come here for our money in private fundraising - jnine Nov 4, 09:05
        
        That may have been the case 100 years ago, but it just doesn't hold anymore. Every vote counts. And candidates can access all of them. There aren't - pmb Nov 4, 08:19
        
        Nobody is being ignored if everybody's vote is treated exactly the same, the same way we elect governors. -- nm* - mara Nov 4, 08:16 7
        
        It doesn't matter what the practicality is. If those urban centers are predominantly democratic, it will *feel* to the rest of the US that their - oblique Nov 4, 08:18 6
        
        Well urban areas, with the majority of the population are being ignored now. I'm feeling pretty damn ignored in CA and I'm tired of it. Time for - jnine Nov 4, 09:07
        
        Instead of right now how it *feels* like the urban vote is undervalued? (because it is) -- nm* - Andie Nov 4, 08:31 1
        
        Just ftr - Canada has some issues with this as well. -- nm - Andie Nov 4, 08:34
        
        Nobody's saying it will fix the partisan nature of the US; we're saying we prefer every vote to count the same. -- nm - mara Nov 4, 08:22 2
        
        If it means we get a nationwide election system, I'm all for it - oblique Nov 4, 08:27 1
        
        Whether or not it causes Dems to lose is irrelevent to me, I just want every vote to count. -- nm - mara Nov 4, 08:29
    - Without the EC every election but one since Reagan would have had a different winner. The EC is anti-democratic and fails to align - TWuG Nov 4, 08:08 8
      - How you figuring that? - Reagen Nov 4, 08:19 1
        
        See my response to crash. I'm brain fried. -- nm - TWuG Nov 4, 08:23
      - Whatchu talking about Willis? -- nm - crash davis Nov 4, 08:11 1
        
        Sorry. I'm tired and bungled the stat. What my post says is incorrect, but I'm too tired to fix it -- nm - TWuG Nov 4, 08:17
      - It wasn't intended to align with the popular vote and I understand the frustration of those that want it to. It is one of many compromises in our - oblique Nov 4, 08:10 3
        
        Most compromises in the Constitution were made to accommodate slavers. Sad that we're still using them; horrifying that people keep defending them. -- nm - mara Nov 4, 08:15 1
        
        this -- nm - decline Nov 4, 08:16
        
        Re Your IM. It most certainly isn't. -- nm* - Andie Nov 4, 08:13
- I hope not. - Epiphany Nov 4, 07:56 2
  - Its over, Biden won Omaha. I was making a statement that the one lone electoral vote he won there might loom large -- nm - crash davis Nov 4, 08:02 1
    - he did?! shocking. stop scaring me Crash! :) -- nm - Epiphany Nov 4, 08:14
Sorry to impose, guys, but can someone walk me through the Math of why I should be 80% optimistic right now? - Marlowe Nov 4, 07:44 29
- “Of the votes that remain to be counted, a majority of them come from places that leaned Democratic in 2016.” - znufrii Nov 4, 07:54
- Assuming that NV stays blue, WI and MI both had large primarily democratic leaning precincts yet to report with large quantities of mail in ballots. - oblique Nov 4, 07:50
- This is a pretty decent explanation of why there is confidence in Biden (nmbl) - Brian Nov 4, 07:49 8
  - "And yet, people lost their minds anyway." -- I feel that writer's frustration. -- nm - David Nov 4, 08:13 1
    - Look at that writer, assuming we had the luxury of minds to start with. -- nm - Qale Nov 4, 08:16
  - This was a great read, thanks.. (NM) - Marlowe Nov 4, 07:58
  - Also, how is the Senate looking? (NM) - Marlowe Nov 4, 07:52 4
    - This is constantly updated and easy to get to. -- (link) - mara Nov 4, 07:55
    - Disappointing. -- nm - loosilu Nov 4, 07:55
    - Lol. - znufrii Nov 4, 07:54
    - Meh. 51-49 at the absolute best. -- nm* - Reagen Nov 4, 07:53
- 270 EV needed to win. Biden at 227 at NYT. AZ & MI all appear to me to be confidently Biden 27 EV. NV & WI less confidently Biden 16 EV -- nm - crash davis Nov 4, 07:49
- Biden needs 46 Electoral Votes based on what CNN has called. He currently has leads on 47 Electoral Votes and remaining vote count should favor him. -- nm* - Dano Nov 4, 07:48 13
  - OK, thanks all. Any way to get a bit more of a leeway, since faithless electors, for instance? (NM) - Marlowe Nov 4, 07:51 12
    - States can legally tell faithless electors to get fucked now, thanks to a SCOTUS case. -- nm - Reagen Nov 4, 07:56 7
      - Of all the features (some would say bugs, but whatever) of the US electoral system, this* is what mostly boggles my mind. - Marlowe Nov 4, 08:01 6
        
        It was so if the people made a terrible decision the electors could “correct” it. - spamlet Nov 4, 08:13 3
        
        Too sad that nobody could correct *that* terrible decision. Either you are a effing democracy or you aren't. (NM) -- nm - Marlowe Nov 4, 08:26 2
        
        We're not -- nm - oblique Nov 4, 08:28 1
        
        Correct, we're a Republic of states. Until 1912 the Senate wasn't even directly elected. -- nm - spamlet Nov 4, 08:45
        
        It's what you'd get if you let loose a bunch of 18th century intellectuals/drinking society to design a decision system. -- nm - Reagen Nov 4, 08:06 1
        
        hilarious -- nm - mud Nov 4, 08:07
    - There are other states where he is currently trailing but could win based on the remaining vote counts. (Pennsylvania is the big one). -- nm - Dano Nov 4, 07:55 3
      - PA numbers: 1M+ votes still to be counted. Trump leads by 500K votes. Mail-in trend is 70% Biden so far. PA is very much a possibility -- nm - decline Nov 4, 08:05 2
        
        WI+MI. Screw PA :) -- nm - oblique Nov 4, 08:05 1
        
        I hope that's the case -- nm - decline Nov 4, 08:07
- What Bery said. The absentee and mail in ballots trend toward Biden. -- nm - loosilu Nov 4, 07:46
- As noted below, USPS also havent delivered all the ballots. PA and others accept late receipt of ballots. -- nm - budice Nov 4, 07:46
- A large amount of yet-uncounted votes lean democratic. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 4, 07:45
USPS failed to deliver a substantial number of mail-in ballots. Judge in USPS Case holding a Noon ET Hearing -- (link*) - budice Nov 4, 07:44 1
- This was my fear. It could be determinative there. -- nm - pmb Nov 4, 08:08
Do you think Pence would have won, if Trump's impeachment had resulted in conviction and Pence became president? -- nm - mara Nov 4, 07:42 3
- I think it's funny (not in a good way) that I used to think Pence was the more worrisome of the two. I had no idea just how bad Trump would end up - sycor Nov 4, 08:00
- I just don't see him whipping up the enthusiasm. -- nm - crash davis Nov 4, 07:43
- No. He doesn't have his own cult. -- nm - loosilu Nov 4, 07:42
Yesterday I volunteered with Bennett. Friday, we are going to get tested together and for takeout mexican super hot lunch. Tuesday: repeat. - amanda jeans Nov 4, 07:40 1
- Is the lunch super hot or Bennett? -- nm - spamlet Nov 4, 07:48
I think the Nates have gone to bed. -- nm - Reagen Nov 4, 07:39
“Of the votes that remain to be counted, a majority of them come from places that leaned Democratic in 2016.” -- nm - znufrii Nov 4, 07:37
*screams into the void* -- nm - TWuG Nov 4, 07:35 3
- "The void screams back. Mostly void stuff." -- nm - David Nov 4, 07:38
- that reminds me the newest Streaming Hams episode breaks down Netflix like a shotgun. very informative and I liked it a lot. -- nm - Epiphany Nov 4, 07:37 1
  - We did that largely in one take at the same time as the one before it. I'm glad you enjoyed it. -- nm - David Nov 4, 07:39
Nevada: No Vote Total Updates til Thursday - "One Day Break" -- (link*) - budice Nov 4, 07:34 8
- comments = yucky -- nm - colin Nov 4, 07:44
- Just read the responses to this tweet if you want to know how broken everything is -- nm - oblique Nov 4, 07:40
- Diva: Posted this info some time ago. -- (link) - Diva Nov 4, 07:38 [Backboard] 3
  - I read that as saying last night nothing until today not that they were skipping a day. - spamlet Nov 4, 07:51 2
    - I know. mel told me what day it was and I sort of challenged/questioned him even though I knew he was right. - Diva Nov 4, 07:53 1
      - "It's always been Tuesday, Mel." -- nm - Reagen Nov 4, 07:55
- That's what I thought. So, unless PA, GA or NC switch, we won't have an official answer until then. -- nm - Inigo Nov 4, 07:37 1
  - PA should be called late this afternoon. Evening at worse. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Nov 4, 07:59

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