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CRAP - Danedukenuuk Jul 21, 07:54 1
- Some of the turns in that road are pretty scary. -- nm - celedhring Jul 21, 07:56
You don't care, but soon I'm going to get to go to my beloved Vegas. nm - ralph wiggum Jul 21, 07:51 11
- So your job application at the Crazy Horse was finally processed?! Congrats! - Will Hunting Jul 21, 07:53
- We care! We care! - Epiphany Jul 21, 07:52 9
  - Staying for one night at Bellagio. Because of the short stay, we're not going to a show, just a nice dinner. And massages at the Bellagio spa! nm - ralph wiggum Jul 21, 07:54 3
    - schweet! have a great time. -- nm - Epiphany Jul 21, 07:57
    - That sounds fun! -- nm - Diva Jul 21, 07:56
    - Very nice. -- nm - Will Hunting Jul 21, 07:55
  - *suffers withdrawal symptoms* -- nm - Will Hunting Jul 21, 07:53 1
    - I seriously get that longing feeling for Vegas a couple times a year. nm - ralph wiggum Jul 21, 07:56
  - we totally care. Some of us care vicariously and shirtlessly. -- nm - Diva Jul 21, 07:53 2
    - Haaa!! that reminds me - Epiphany Jul 21, 07:57 1
      - ha!! Go, Lil' Pip!! -- nm - Diva Jul 21, 08:09
This link says that as of 2003, only about half of Canadian doctors are paid primarily on a FFS basis. -- (link) - TFox Jul 21, 07:47
you can't masure the "fainess" of a give tax in amount of money it cost you or might cost you - Danedukenuuk Jul 21, 07:45 1
- There'[s a difference, though. A sales tax is "voluntary" in that you choose to spend money on things that get taxed. - TWuG Jul 21, 07:59
speaking of tall.. i swear my fiancee has grown in the last year or two.. she's at least 6'2" now.. - colinski Jul 21, 07:38 14
- fiancee? - lileve Jul 21, 07:45 5
  - end of may i proposed, and then we moved to Maine! -- nm - colinski Jul 21, 07:52 2
    - Well congrats sir! -- nm - Cuzzin Todd Jul 21, 07:54 1
      - danke! -- nm - colinski Jul 21, 07:55
  - It was a bit recent and they moved - Epiphany Jul 21, 07:51 1
    - indeed i am. still sounds weird... -- nm - colinski Jul 21, 07:52
- maybe you're shrinking -- nm - oblique Jul 21, 07:44
- if that's true she should see a doc. it's not normal. -- nm - loosilu Jul 21, 07:40 3
  - she's 21. if she's still growing in a few years, we'll check. -- nm - colinski Jul 21, 07:55 1
    - I thought girls stopped growing tall/up after their period - is that a myth? -- nm - Epiphany Jul 21, 07:58
  - Yes, could be a perpituary gland problem. -- nm - lileve Jul 21, 07:45
- speaking of tail...i swear ym fiance has grown one in the last year or two... -- nm - what znufrii read Jul 21, 07:40 2
  - you know what his anaconda wants... -- nm - oblique Jul 21, 07:44 1
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Prediction results are up. But most of you forgot :) -- (link) - oblique Jul 21, 07:37 2
- burritos? -- nm - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:38 1
  - Actually, yes. I think I will be having burritos today. I even have a free one from the Chipotle near my house but I need to find a time to go over - oblique Jul 21, 07:42
car repair for profit is a fine and dandy business. Child repair for profit is evil. -- nm - Beryllium Jul 21, 07:34 6
- stupid and evil are not the same -- nm - Danedukenuuk Jul 21, 07:35 5
  - Sometimes it's difficult to differentiate the two. -- nm - Beryllium Jul 21, 07:36 4
    - you're refering to the years 2000-2008??????? - Danedukenuuk Jul 21, 07:37
    - it's about intent, I think. -- nm - loosilu Jul 21, 07:36 2
      - Well, the current system is stupid, sure - but it's compounded by the evilness of the shakedowns for payment. - Beryllium Jul 21, 07:38 1
        
        I'd say it's both. -- nm - loosilu Jul 21, 07:40
Is Katherine Heigl an Amazon? - ty97 Jul 21, 07:29 16
- yep -- nm - Danedukenuuk Jul 21, 07:32
- Only 5'9" according to imdb, which is above avg for women, but not extraordinarily so. -- nm - Don Homer Jul 21, 07:30 11
  - That's not average. -- nm - lileve Jul 21, 07:34 5
    - Nope, didn't say it was. -- nm - Don Homer Jul 21, 07:35 4
      - Yes I understood that. -- nm - lileve Jul 21, 07:46 3
        
        ...and I read what you posted wrong. Sorry. -- nm - lileve Jul 21, 07:51 2
        
        I incorrectly read what you posted. I need coffee. Sorry. -- nm - lileve Jul 21, 07:51 1
        
        Mmm... coffee. -- nm - Don Homer Jul 21, 07:52
  - average is 5'4.5", IIRC, so she's tall. -- nm - loosilu Jul 21, 07:31 4
    - "but not extraordinarily so" -- nm - Don Homer Jul 21, 07:32 3
      - I know. :) And she's probably wearing heels as well which could put her over 6 feet. -- nm - loosilu Jul 21, 07:32 2
        
        She's from New Canaan. Nuff said. -- nm - lileve Jul 21, 07:47 1
        
        A comment based on her attitude. -- nm - lileve Jul 21, 07:49
- (-ian) -- nm - ty97 Jul 21, 07:30
- Reege is a shrimp. -- nm - loosilu Jul 21, 07:30 1
  - apparently he's officially 5'7" but I think that's a lie. IIRC he's very close to my height and I'm 5'5". -- nm - loosilu Jul 21, 07:31
What I want to know is the average *effective* tax rate vs income level. -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:25 33
- umm, this is old data, but a google search turns up this. - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:26 32
  - Okay, but versus income level. The rich have a higher tax bracket, but they also have a great deal more tax havens and deductions. -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:28 31
    - also, here, try this. -- (link) - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:30 7
      - and this -- (link) - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:31 6 1
        
        nubby, I think the above link is what you want, but you will have to combine two different tables to get - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:34 4
        
        So it looks to me that the people who are "hurt" the most by federal income tax is those making $70k-$100k a year. -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:38 3
        
        yeah, that is the worst level for federal. but my question is, are those numbers for families with kids or singles? - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:39 2
        
        households, it looks like -- nm - znufrii Jul 21, 07:41 1
        
        hmm, k. -- nm - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:41
        
        That's it, thanks. -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:34
    - at what level do you start getting access to those? - colinski Jul 21, 07:29 20
      - Exactly. Maybe the "rich" have an *effective* tax rate of 20%. - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:31 19
        
        i still don't think the rich should foot the bill for gov't programs.. -- nm - colinski Jul 21, 07:34 18
        
        why not, they've arguably benefitted the most. -- nm - znufrii Jul 21, 07:42 1
        
        to bring logic into a tax discussion. - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:43
        
        until obama passes the health care bill, you are free to think what you want. but after that, its against the law. -- nm - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:37 2
        
        it will be against the law for me to think the rich shouldn't pay for gov't programs? - colinski Jul 21, 07:39 1
        
        well, that damm healthcare bill is omnipotent. -- nm - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:40
        
        Okay, then you get to. :) -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:36 12
        
        fine with me.. spread it out. - colinski Jul 21, 07:37 11
        
        And this is, I think, a fundamental political difference of people. - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:39 1
        
        pretty much -- nm - Don Homer Jul 21, 07:48
        
        there was a study done once (I cannot remember where) that asked people if a progressive tax system was fair - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:38 3
        
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        why nope? -- nm - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:40 1
        
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        they should have planned to not get sick. - colinski Jul 21, 07:40 3
        
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        So, they should have had health insurance? :) -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:41 1
        
        sure, but not a forced governmental plan that requries them to have 3 kids, one which is gay. -- nm - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:42
    - yes/no. the federal system is professive, so one could do that easily, but most states are regressive - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:29 1
      - So, back to my original question then. I'd like to see the numbers. -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:30
the other political thing that caught my attention today is that Senate republicans are going to block Sotomayor's passge from the committee - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:23 3
- Are you referring to the one-week delay that I beleive is their prerogative, or trying to block it beyond that? -- nm - znufrii Jul 21, 07:26 2
  - I guess the delay, but just last week they were saying they wouldnt delay the nomination, and this seems to be just such an action - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:27 1
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See, we can have a decent, fair, and respectful political discussion on ST. -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:21 15
- The bill also says "no healthcare on Saturdays". But don't worry - you'll adjust :) -- nm - Roger More Jul 21, 07:24 1
  - Nice callback! -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:25
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  - I have a friend who is actually helping edit the bill. - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:24 11
    - it seems to be a big thing in DC right now. I know several people working on it in one way or another. -- nm - loosilu Jul 21, 07:26
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      - "We all know congressional staffers"? - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:27 7
        
        *hands nubby a knocker* - colinski Jul 21, 07:28
        
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        Well damn, I guess I've been put in my place then! -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:29 4
        
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        CYWJO!!! -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:33 2
        
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        *books an express flight* -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:40
    - email him, maybe you will get a response. -- nm - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:25
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- They did a story about the ad campaigns on both sides this morning on NPR. About $35 million has been spent so far this year -- (link) - con_carne Jul 21, 07:46
- If your Congressman doesn't know this isn't Canada, then he shouldn't be in Congress. -- nm - Cuzzin Todd Jul 21, 07:37
- i wonder where that "gay marriage" came from? -- nm - Danedukenuuk Jul 21, 07:24
- so ridiculous. did you see what i mentioned about what i pay in taxes on B2? -- nm - Andie Jul 21, 07:23 9
  - i pay about 30-35% and it covers - Danedukenuuk Jul 21, 07:30 2
    - that's about our tax rate too - i just pay less because i can write stuff off. -- nm - Andie Jul 21, 07:31 1
      - ahh one of the tax eels :) - Danedukenuuk Jul 21, 07:32
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  - yep. I honestly don't get why it has to cost so much here. -- nm - loosilu Jul 21, 07:24 4
    - there is not even a teoretical limit to profit margens - Danedukenuuk Jul 21, 07:31
    - the biggest difference, i believe, is that in the US doctors are paid per service and (i think) in canada they usually are not. - TFox Jul 21, 07:31 2
      - of course they are. -- nm - Andie Jul 21, 07:32 1
        
        are they? i thought it was more of a salaried system than a fee-for-service system, but i could be way off base. -- nm - TFox Jul 21, 07:33
- A reporter went to doctors in several different countries with the same shoulder ailment. (link) - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:23 15
  - also, you guys have *got* to get over this idea that it takes a year to see a specialist. -- nm - Andie Jul 21, 07:30 7
    - it can take a long time to see a specialist here as well, sometimes. -- nm - loosilu Jul 21, 07:32 5
      - I tried making an endocrinologist appt last month - he couldn't get me in til January! - kelly Jul 21, 07:38 1
        
        wow. and thanks for reminding me, I need to see mine. -- nm - loosilu Jul 21, 07:44
      - right. and try getting an appt with many doctors if you are just sick and need to be checked out or medicine would help. -- nm - Don Homer Jul 21, 07:33 2
        
        a dermatologist appointment takes me FOREVER. -- nm - loosilu Jul 21, 07:34 1
        
        we meant real doctors, loosi. :) -- nm - TFox Jul 21, 07:37
    - note: i am being tested for high blood pressure. i saw my dr three weeks ago today. that afternoon i had blood work and an Electrocardiogram. - Andie Jul 21, 07:32
  - to be fair, I think it would vary a lot from doctor to doctor. some are cutters. -- nm - loosilu Jul 21, 07:24 6
    - It's amazing how true this is. - Mel Profit Jul 21, 07:31
    - I always think about a story I read in Australia - a guy had chronic back pain, went to see all kinds of spinal specialists, chriopractors, etc - Roger More Jul 21, 07:29 2
      - This actually happened to me in high school. All kinds of back pain. MRIs and a bunch of other tests found nothing. - ralph wiggum Jul 21, 07:39 1
        
        all you had to say was "running". :) It's hard on the body. -- nm - loosilu Jul 21, 07:48
    - True, but the point is made: health care is reflective of a country's personality. -- nm - nubby, Astronauts champion Jul 21, 07:25 1
      - agreed. but it would be very easy to pick doctors to prove whatever point you want to make. -- nm - loosilu Jul 21, 07:27
- not to mention that as far as I can tell, it's a pretty flawed comparison to begin with. - znufrii Jul 21, 07:22 1
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Andie, from b2. most insurance companies have agreements with various docs/hospitals on the amount a procedure can be reimbursed at. - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:20 6
- also, this scenario explains why the procedure costs a $1000 - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:21 4
  - This is less true. The overwhelming majority of their services will be covered by insurance. - TFox Jul 21, 07:23 3
    - health care for profit IS a bad business model - Danedukenuuk Jul 21, 07:26
    - not all insurance companies pay the same rate, have the same deductible, etc. its an accounting pricing model which is setup to - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:24 1
      - No, I agree. I think we just got twisted. You were saying that the low price of $500 explains why they charge $1000 for the uninsured. - TFox Jul 21, 07:29
- Yep, that's true. -- nm - TFox Jul 21, 07:21
i'm sorry, we dont accept your insurance policy here. -- nm - tRuMaN Jul 21, 07:18 2
- the local fire house -- nm - Danedukenuuk Jul 21, 07:19
- *moves to Canada* -- nm - znufrii Jul 21, 07:19

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